-The First Principle is 'cause and effect'. It means nothing acts without something acting upon it. Like domino effects or billiard ball bank shot chain reactions.
B- There is a finite/limited amount of energy ultimately [in the end]. Ie if there is more steam there is always less ice and vice versa. (Replace the words 'steam and ice' with what ever; eg force and matter, gas and solid, this or that chemical compound [tinker toy arrangements of molecules, giving off unique to that pattern hums that attract and repel other hums].) More of one thing = less of some other arrangement of stuff.
-Natural Selection. This is the Second Principle of the universe after cause and effect/limited energy Principle.
.Different baby variations form. (because of cause and effect)
.Only some live and pass on their unique arrangements.
."Environment" selects. (Environments [arrangements of energy flow] are always varying too [like cloud formations in the sky], also because of cause and effect.)
Use this knowledge for good and not evil, Grass Hopper. (I for one will be using it for evil. Hence my cry of "cull back the masses, before it's too late".)
->Female sexual value.
->And male combat over it. Either as individuals (eg deer) or in groups. Few males win; most lose.
-If in groups, that selects for male variations who engage in schmoozing and compromise (simply 'sharing'). (Parallels to hive social dynamics and multi cellularism (simply 'body') metabolisms then can be seen.)
-The groups are variation assembly line machines fighting (directly or indirectly) other group variants. (Natural Selection will select the winner group variant.)
-Inside the group there is an 'alpha beta gamma' hierarchy where coup d eta civil war --_and counter strategy suppression_-- is always brewing.
-If the male vs male combat becomes more display based[eg birds] than direct engagement based [eg bears], the so called female 'handicapping' principle takes over: simply females choose the 'winner' male variation rather than being chosen by the best male warrior variations.
[All this is online at reputable places.]
'super' and 'sub' affixes affect these headings...
Animalia (predators as separate from photosynthesis)
(sponge, coral, and their jellyfish, worms, molluscs, arthrodpods, vertebrates, starfish; note around upper coral, self moving multicellular predators form --important)
chordata [these come from mullosc-like worms (most animals are worms) --but that takes us into evolution not just naturalist taxonomy.]
-sub: placentalia (also marsupials and monotremes [platypus])
Primate (lemurs etc)
-super family: pongoid ("Apes" --tailess primates)
Hominoidea (biped apes)
Race (all this gets loose):
~'Celt-Nord with vestigial Cromagnid' (=fancy talk for the skull type human females still find attractive.)
I would add sexual types to that.
.A-sexual (clone /self-splitters -most lifeforms)
.Sexual (most animals)
-hermaphrodites (sponge, coral, jellyfish, worms, molluscs)
-dimorphic sexuality (boy girl reproduction. Most arthropods, vertebrates. For these animal types, it starts with emasculation attacks symptomatic of their moving predation lifestyles).
~temperature (or energy/food acquisition)-created gender. (Reptiles/nesters etc)
~Y chrom/genetic-created gender. (Upper mammals AND through parallelism some insects [phylum: arthropods; class: insecta]!)
Note that reproduction is the most fascinating subject but least explored. Much parallelism; eg proto dimorphic sex formed in "pond scum" (one-celled specialist-breeding between multiple species in symbiosis with each other!) but modern vetebrate dim sex comes from totally different and much later branch.
"Objective" is tough. Relativism is always lurking.
_BUT_... these are OUR relative designations and therefore valid in and of themselves!
These classifications will modify over time as "paradigm shifts".
We want them to only shift according to OUR standards and observations. We must fight to keep alien --"Marxist" --paradigm shifts out. (Last time we fought, you jebus dolts fought for our enemies. Everything has sucked ever since. You all --christers-- complain about the modern world we live in but you are oblvious to the fact you have done it yourselves. You have done it to us all. There will be a reckoning...)
Others that don't like our relative designations and classifications can go to death camps where they can grapple with the error that was their attempts to replace our relative constructs WITH THEIR relative constructs.
Genetic cladistics (biochemical dissection) is replacing taxonomy (study of skeleton similarities and subtle differences) to classify into groups.
Final note about "parallelism" (some call it "convergence" which I dislike)...
Simply the phenom where a 30million year old dolphin (from coast-living proto-dog-thang) looks like >400million year old shark (from early fish).
This parallelism creates problems for taxonomists, since they look at morphological shapes (creature's parts) to classify: The seen similarities might be symptom of similar niches rather than family relationship. Genetic cladistics seeks to cure that classification problem.
As an exercise, figure out why dolphins and sharks have similar morphologies.
(Hint-- use NATURAL SELECTION theory...
1-) Different variations are born to a litter (they look, act and feel-inside different because of their different chemical compositions); 2-) only a small portion live; 3-) the niche they live in decides life and death.
Niches change over time but some remain consistent.
The fundamental motor of the Universe is "cause and effect" --billiard balls on a table... ricocheting, bank shot after bank shot forever. That ever continuing domino effect motion creates the varying niches and varying pups o'the litters.)
Use this Knowledge for good and not evil...
(And don't forget, junior...
"SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!")
"Adaption" and "Evolution"
Nothing "adapts". That is not the way evolution works.
Natural selection is the way "evolution" works and it aint pretty. (There are other complexity systems too--none of them are touchy feel-y either.)
"Adaption" is classic liberal wordplay to trick people away from the truth of how "evolution" works, because liberals don't like the facts as much as christers don't.
When creatures 'evolve' from one form to another, what happens is environments change and consequently most pups die/drown, while some freaks/runts who normally didn't thrive go on to be the new top dog strains of that new niche.
_And no utopias happen in the offing._ Amphibians are every bit as cruel as the deep blue past was; And Romans were every bit a deadly as cromags; ...as the lingering cavalry fort [ie the city] is every bit as deadly and oppressive as the Indians were.
So if society IS "evolving", no one is magical adapting. We are simply creating a world hostile to certain types (ie killing strains that don't fit anymore) so that other types can thrive. The sewer, of have-n-have-not brutality called the city, is the new 'utopia'.
Welcome to what liberalism's progress really means.
And note that I don't care what your professors or pastors think: they are wrong and should be in political reeducation camps.
Don't post some nonsense response about how "they aint got no profes for ebolution --and give me back my stems!"
You conservatives --ie natural born dunces-- need to get your heads out of the philosophical and psychological hole you hide in.
As an exercise towards that end, stop fighting liberalism's wars for it.
>Creationist said: "And [science tech fraud] tends to indicate that attempting to construct an objective moral standard for Man based on science would not merely fail, but prove downright
So you're saying that observations of other mammal social groupings are so inaccurate and lied about that conclusions drawn from those observations could never be used to understand more about the human condition from an outside looking in perspective?
And note the only people lying about mammal social dynamic (and the socio- and psycho- babble implications) are marxists (ie jews) and their fellow travelers.
_Creationism keeps fighting the wars to keep those marxists in power over science-conclusions but then complains that science says things that are dangerous to conservative values._ (Read that sentence again.)
That is why creationism MUST go as a pre requisite to stopping "Marxism" (ie modern liberalism --feminism, affirmative action, immigration etc). (NOTE marxism is NOT Russian tank armies from the 50s-80s; marixsm is american 20th century liberalism which American white males/Christians keep fighting FOR. Creationists are doing that because they are susceptible to confusion; that is the same confusion tendency that hampers their grasping the simple Natural Selection concept.)
(And note the only thing that has "proved downright disastrous" so far is the american religious zeitgeist and parliamentary democracy in general.)
CHOICE CREATIONIST QUOTES
[quote]Supposing Dawkins and Darwin are impostors [/quote]
Wouldn't change a thing. (BTW, FYI to all, as far as I can tell dawkins is a feminist.)
Reality doesn't come from books.
I don't recite back what I read in some books. I understand what I do cause what I do understand is obvious.
You are congenitally predisposed to not get it and to not want to get it.
Along with chivalry, that is Western Mans' fatal flaw.
Classic Conspiracy Theory,...
...Classic Conspiracy Theory, used to refer to Darwin, Marx and Freud as the three thinkers who’d unshipped the rudders of European civilisation. [sic] Personally I’d add the insane moralist (NB NOT “philosopher") Nietzsche into the mix.
And the God Fearing US/Brit nutters fought against the Third Reich which was going to right the ship (and keep the true epiphanies).
So there you go.
How's that working out for ya?...
[quote]Surely the fact that a bunch of amoebas that suddenly got wise and moved about a bit and grew white skin and hair and teeth and learned to walk and talk is now giving way to another bunch that grew black skin and all the other accoutrements should be accepted as part of the great (but ultimately meaningless) progress, destiny, whatever, that results from Natural Selection?
"Suddenly got wise"
You don't understand Natural Selection or naturalism at all and therefore mis characterize it with strawmen, that I guess work out in the stycks of that `god forsaken hell hole once called america, but it doesn't work with even the mildly lucid.
If Dawkins is correct in deriving from his Darwinian positions the belief that “the universe that we observe has precisely the properties that we should expect if there is at bottom, no design, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference”
Well known. One of Dawkins' better observations.
Why don't you see it yourself?
Then WHY should anyone bother about The Decline of the West?
`Cause I want to live and thrive. I don't want to be "ugly ducklinged" out of my own home pond. (Also I don't want the inherent character flaws of my females --though adaptive, as part of that grand indifference-- to get away with "it"; also the human condition regarding reproduction in general --and all it entails (mostly pain --catalystic as ever-- on one plane or another)-- needs to be solved --for the good of everybody.) Period.
As for not seeing the soundness of cause and effect "materialism"...
You don't think the universe is generally as big as 'we' think it is? Same with the time scale?
You don't think weather is cause and effect on the scale of hot and cold creating currents? Same for earth quakes and volcanoes. You don't think mudslides and floods etc are "domino-effect" movements?
You can't put together for yourself how the movements of people, creatures and things --all of which are chemical composites-- are the continuations of movements from previous days and then previous days before that?
Now if the Uni is that big and old, any self aware creator entity which could grapple with all of its movements over that span must be magnifico in the extreme. Does it make sense that "red in tooth and claw" would be the cosmos-wide motor of this loving fatherly protector being?
Now you say "Satan did that red in tooth and claw jazz".
Okay but Is "God" too weak to stop `him? And didn't the great savant --who created satan, according to your particular myth (which just recently comes from a previous one called Zeus and Prometheus) --see that his throne bare-ing class was prone to pilfering?
As far as Natural Selection (which is cause and effect on the bio-chemical [carbo nitro atom] scale) --"Darwinism"...
You don't think dog breeds come from wolves through selectively picking certain traits over others? Same for horse breeds and grass/wheat/rice. _You don't think that that process of "only some traits getting to breed" applies to other organisms over more generations, as selected by the cause and effect domino effect movements of their surrounding locales/environments?_
You don't think human babies are chemical variants? You think all babies go on to do equally well at passing on their genes/ideas? (Ideas/memes are a symptom of the chemical composites we call genes.)
1) Different variations are born to a litter (they look, act and feel-inside different because of their different chemical compositions);
2) only a small portion live;
3) the niche they live in decides life and death.
Niches change over time.
The fundamental motor of the Universe is “cause and effect” --billiard balls on a table… ricocheting, bank shot after bank shot forever. That ever continuing domino effect motion creates the varying niches and varying pups o’the litters.
Parallelism: The phenom where a 30million year old dolphin (from coast-living proto-dog-thang) looks like >400million year old shark (from early fish).
Technology and wisdom in general is the Luciferean Apple yes. (If this loving protector god of yours wasn’t an A class prick Man wouldn’t grab it so readily.)
At any rate the techno snowball and a philosophical ontological understanding (eg natural selection) are not the same things. We can destroy ourselves --or a part of ourselves-- with the crazy train techno snowball but the facts of nature we have observed can still BE RIGHT too. (We can’t just hide our heads in holes and pretend truth hasn’t been seen.)
If we are to protect ourselves from the crazytrain snowball And at the same time accept what we now know to be true too, maybe we need to shale off atavistic (obsolete vestigial) christian sentiment, see a little means and end justification and throw down in un jesus-like, undemocratic ways, Third Reich style.